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I'm asking about submerging a bear in Liquid Illusion: do air bubbles appear in the fabric nap or the spaces between the fibers in NFing? I'd hate to invest $$ in the product and time in NFing a bear, to find out I've used the wrong product.
If it does, is there another recommended product that will create solid water for bears to frolic in?
Have you ever poured it into a form that's removable so that it looks like you're viewing the bear through the underwater windows and ports at the zoo?
TIA -
As an artist always pushing media into something it wasn't intended to do I must suggest a test run on something less important, before you dip something prescious into a vat of acid.
-Articicle
I'd be interested in your results as I wanted to make a ferret having a bath, with bubbles etc, leaving an area for the ferret to sit, but didn't know if the solution would spoil the fabric.
Oh, Right, Alan! I'd intended to test it first on a scrap. But by then, I've purchased it with unknown outcomes. I've seen ppl's work with this done but never been nervy enough to ask what the solid water is ....
So you want ME to test for all of us?? Ok ok after the new year....
I did the hot wax trick with a bear once to pour it over and make it look like it was covered in honey. The funny thing was my mom liked the look so much she did it... the set back was she heated the wax too hot and it drizzled like soup over her bear...
lesson learned with hot wax, let it cool until it goes almost gelation before pouring.
another bear I ruined trying to give it a honey pot filled with honey by pouring some wood glue into a wooden keg. I think likely it still isn't fully dry after ten years, where ever it went to.... should have stuck with the bees wax for honey...
-articicle
Oh, Right, Alan! I'd intended to test it first on a scrap. But by then, I've purchased it with unknown outcomes. I've seen ppl's work with this done but never been nervy enough to ask what the solid water is ....
So you want ME to test for all of us?? Ok ok after the new year....
I was going to try ' Liquid Illusion Acrylic Water', and blow bubbles into it, for the bubble bath effect. As it looks like water, but sets hard.
I wonder if you'd have to grease the sides of a box or something like that, to have it set, then remove it, if you are wanting to be "viewing the bear through the underwater windows and ports at the zoo?"
acrylic water? and here I am thinking about non-flavored jello for my creation.
one of my friends used some kind of acrylic water once and made a pyrimad. He filled it half way then waited for it to turn to jello pushed a penny in it then filled it up... the penny forever stood floating in limbo. I've lost contact with that buddy or I'd ask what he used. If its any consolation I remember he said it was kind of toxic and wouldn't use what ever it was again anyway. It was likely something home made.
didn't the craft stores sell something to fill up little aquariums with and put in plastic fish? maybe thats the same as your acrylic water.
being the vagabond artist I am I might still try the clear jello thing.
articicle
yep, Lisa, I saw the brand name somewhere on a thread here. I looked it up, and was going to try locally after the holidays (no sense paying postage on heavy stuff). Someone mentioned eBay but all they had on offer were floral arrangements.
I want to create 'cubes' of water, abutting snow & ice, but no visible sides to the cube, so you'll look right through the water to see the undersea scene from the sides, not just the top. I'll work that out later - first step is getting a product that I can push bears down into, w/o leaving air bubbles on their surfaces.
In other words, how penetrating is this stuff?
I also have tried liquid (both meltable crystals - messy & smelly - and bought-by-the-quart liquid) from the model railroad shop in town. Worked 'OK' but was very expensive.
Looking for better options in the decade since I did that one.
Could you do your creation *without* actually putting your bears in the substance? I mean I was thinking like if you did some kind of igloo for example for your polar bear, a "window" to water might be the glass to a clock and the inside is really dry. or you might make some kind of ice cube but looking through it totally with your bear dry in back of it.
you've likely already thought of this stuff... I am just trying to spur you with ideas.
-articicle
Bobbie,
I have a box of what you are referring to right in front of me. I bought it to use for artificial flowers. It is called Wonder Water and I got it at Walmart of all places.In the craft department where they sell the glass rocks and marbles for vases. Anyway, This is what the box says. Solidifies into gel, firmly holding your arrangement in place. Turns into a clear gel that looks like water but is thick enough to hold your flowers in place. Will not bind to the inside of the glass (or vase) BUT it also says, Quite easy to remove, just pull out your stems and remove the gel (to use it, you heat it up to melt it, then it will cool and solidify (somewhat) Your arrangement will not be permanent. It also warns, do not use acrylic of any kind as it will cause clouding also do not allow water to come in contact with the Wonder water or it also will cause clouding. Do not keep your arrangement in direct sunlight or it will yellow.
I don't know what it costs, but I would think you might want something more permanent
I was looking on the web and found some info about a product called Silk Shoppe Acrylic Water Kit that is a 2 part resin that dries to a hard acrylic. It says that you don't have to worry about bubbles, because they disappear as it hardens. It is supposed to be sold at some walmarts also.
new update: the above mentioned really is made for items to be less than 1/2" thick.
Looks like the best to use is a polyester based resin. Here is a link
http://www.creative-wholesale.com/casting%20resin.html
Sonya
Wouldn't it be better to pour it over the bear rather then push the bear in?
It may mean pouring a layer and then puring another layer and another especially if the bear needs to be held in a special position. I would think there is less chance of bubbles if you can pour it over.